More Intolerance in Israel?
It appears that the Palestinians are not the only ones to suffer at the hands of the Orthodox in Israel.
Messianic Jews are the "Jews for Jesus" people.
As ethnic Jews, they certainly don't want to drive Israel into the sea. If not, what threat to they present to Israel? The threat is that of conversion, apparently.
Converting Jews in Israel. Not something I would want to try, but they must be having some success given the hostile response.
Also, is Lipsker right, that they have somehow broken the law?
And as we have seen before, intimidation or violence are tools these people are willing to employ.
So, where are these shared values that Israel has with the US? Certainly not in the area of religious freedom.
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Messianic Jews have called for international protests against violations of religious freedom in Israel. Orthodox Jews have harassed a congregation in the desert town of Arad in Southern Israel for more than 18 months.
Messianic Jews are the "Jews for Jesus" people.
As ethnic Jews, they certainly don't want to drive Israel into the sea. If not, what threat to they present to Israel? The threat is that of conversion, apparently.
Lipsker told the journalist that because two residents of Arad had converted, the Messianics had broken the law. The Messianics responded with a police complaint against Lipsker, local Shepardi Chief Rabbi Yosef Elbo, and the ultra-orthodox anti-missionary organisation Yad L’achi.
Converting Jews in Israel. Not something I would want to try, but they must be having some success given the hostile response.
Also, is Lipsker right, that they have somehow broken the law?
And as we have seen before, intimidation or violence are tools these people are willing to employ.
The most publicized attack took place last November [2003] when the Holon apartment of Jehovah's Witnesses Yossi and Sima Levy was broken into by assailants who spray-painted death threats and swastikas [?] all over the walls, slashed their furniture, and destroyed their books.
So, where are these shared values that Israel has with the US? Certainly not in the area of religious freedom.
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Also, is Lipsker right, that they have somehow broken the law?
Yes! It is illegal to not just to proselytize, but also to convert Jews in Israel. They tried to get rid of it recently, but there was a big catfight over it in the Knesset and the whole thing was so embarassing it was dumped. It only got play in the Israeli press, not the US press, which is disgusting right there. The US press is more pro-Israeli than the Israeli media! What a joke.
Not something I would want to try, but they must be having some success given the hostile response.
They converted 2 Jews, big deal. But the Jews make a big deal about this. There is a long tradition of this in Jewish culture. Prior to the Jewish renaissance in 1800, rabbis enforced draconian rabbinical law over Jewish women. In Spain, a Jewish woman who had sex with a Gentile would have her nose chopped off. Nevertheless, there may have been a lot of converting out in Europe pre-1800. As they left the Jewish gene pool, no one much cared. The guys who couldn't hack Torah study just became Christians and were shown the door. This may explain high Ashkenazi IQ.
So, where are these shared values that Israel has with the US? Certainly not in the area of religious freedom.
Good point!
Thanks Robert. You are very knowledgable on this issue.
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