Wednesday, August 10, 2005

Some good commentary on the "AIPAC" spy scandal from Robert Dreyfuss here.

But the network tied to the "Franklin case"-which ought to be called the "AIPAC case," since it was AIPAC that was really under investigation by the FBI- provides an important window into a shadowy world. It is clear that by probing the details of the case, the FBI has got hold of a dangerous loose end of much larger story. By pulling on that string hard enough, the FBI and the Justice Department might just unravel that larger story, which is beginning to look more and more like it involves the same nexus of Pentagon civilians, White House functionaries, and American Enterprise Institute officials who thumped the drums for war in Iraq in 2001-2003 and who are now trying to whip up an anti-Iranian frenzy as well.


Even if the FBI is not able to convict some or all of these people, it is clear that the interests of another nation weighed heavily on the minds of these people during the entire pre-invasion Iraq intellegence gathering process. This very likely led to the bad decision making that took place there, the results of which we are now living with everyday.

13 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting article on how "foreign lobbies" such as AIPAC imperil America:

http://www.antiwar.com/deliso/?articleid=6913

8/10/2005 08:18:00 AM  
Blogger truthseeker said...

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8/10/2005 01:49:00 PM  
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8/10/2005 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cindy Sheehan gets it, big time.

Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by a George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy...not for the real reason, becuase the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy. That hasn't changed since America invaded and occupied Iraq...in fact it has gotten worse.

http://tinyurl.com/8jcbw

8/10/2005 07:05:00 PM  
Anonymous r said...

http://www.forward.com/articles/3794

The Forward has a story on Jewish terrorist groups in the US and their links to the AWOL IDF Israeli who killed the Arab bus passengers.

Also makes you wonder why the FBI is not closing down these jewish/israeli terrorist fund raising groups and net sites like they are the Islam sites and charities.

8/10/2005 07:46:00 PM  
Anonymous David said...

That Cindy Sheehan quote surprised me. It would be nice to think that kind of awareness is growing.

But something tells me she is going to be crucified. They'll never let her get away with saying that.

8/11/2005 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The U.S. government has, of course, arrested Jewish terrorists in the past, such as the JDL. They have detained and deported illegal aliens from Israel. And they are now indicting a group engaged in political advocacy under a statute which has never been used in such a manner.

I'm guessing r knows this, but just upset because the government is not going far enough, like, say, organizing pogroms for her to partake in.

r's one of those girls who would have sang along when Ali G's Borat character started singing "Throw the Jew Down the Well."

8/12/2005 08:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Vanity Fair' Rips Media 'Conspiracy' in Covering Up Role in Plame Scandal

http://tinyurl.com/74ek5

In an article in the September issue of Vanity Fair (not yet online), Michael Wolff, in probing the Plame/CIA leak scandal, rips those in the news media -- principally Time magazine and The New York Times...

Talk about elephants. But even here, we get the usual cut out mendacity.

And why did they do it? Well, “a source is a source who, unrevealed, will continue to be a source.”

In other words, the NYT became whores in order to...continue being whores. Nonsense, of course. The NYT is a sophisticated neocon player, as are its assets. They're experts at incoculating themselves with a couple of "lefty" columnists, while the real slime is Judith Millerized.

8/12/2005 10:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

they are now indicting a group engaged in political advocacy under a statute which has never been used in such a manner.

Cue violins. Sob, sob, sob. Waaaah! We are wictims! Wictims! Wictims!....Waahhaah! It was, sob, sob, only political advocacy, sob, sob. Aipac is a wictim, we are all wictims. Waahhhaaa! Sob.

Sob.

8/12/2005 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Political Advocacy 101

http://tinyurl.com/aqffg

What is striking is that the FBI – or whoever – was hot on the trail of AIPAC and "FO-1" even at this early date, listening in on their phone calls and following them around as they met for lunch over spilled beans. Yet in order to get authorization for wiretaps, especially of an American citizen, law enforcement must go to a federal judge for authorization – and, remember, this was before 9/11, when the legal bar was set far higher. So they had a good reason to be listening in on Israeli officials and their American sock puppets, and shadowing their movements. The discovery that AIPAC officials were in possession of highly classified top-secret information procured from U.S. government officials was apparently part and parcel of an ongoing investigation – but into what? Sparked by what?

The indictment outlines a series of meetings between Rosen, Weissman, and U.S. government officials ("USGO-1" and "USGO-2") about "classified United States strategy against a Middle Eastern country" and top-secret intelligence regarding al-Qaeda, which the AIPAC officials related to various individuals identified as "a foreign national" and "Foreign Official 2 (FO-2)." These meetings spanned a time frame from the winter of 2000 to the winter of 2002.

The FBI then contacted Rosen and Weissman, both blithely unaware of their former cohort's betrayal. They denied having received any classified information from Franklin. Incredibly, this very strong indication that the feds were on to their game did nothing to deter the AIPAC spy cabal from continuing to spill U.S. secrets to further Israel's agenda.

Wictims, I tell ya. Wictims.

8/12/2005 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous r said...

oh anonymous..how paranoid..

I don't believe in throwing Jews or Muslims or Asians or Christians or anyone else down a well unless they are guilty of something horrific...like murder, starting wars or spying and etc...

I would elaborate but I am tuckered out from my two hour trip to visit the step father of my best friend who is in a rest home because of a stroke....her biolgical father was killed in WWII....and yep, her step dad is Jewish, born Jewish, been Jewish the entire 50 years I have known him....a gentle kind man.

when you gonna learn anonymous?

8/12/2005 03:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As this article shows, it certainly is not just advocates of a strong American Israeli alliance that are disturbed by this indictment.

http://www.jewishtimes.com/News/4928.stm

"The law governing unauthorized disclosures of classified information is not 'a clear line,' it is a blurry and discontinuous line," the Federation of American Scientists said in a statement about last week's indictments.

"As a practical matter, receipt of formally classified information is part of the daily business of national- security reporting and occasionally of government watchdogging," said the federation, a nuclear watchdog that advocates against government secrecy. "Mr. McNulty's public statement is not a reliable guide to law or policy on national-security classification."

Steven Aftergood, the federation's secrecy project director, told JTA: "This prosecution breaks troubling new ground, and it means that anyone who works in national-security policy advocacy or as a government watchdog could be liable to prosecution. That's preposterous."

"A number of lobbyists, Jewish and non-Jewish, told JTA that the practices outlined in the indictment are not too far removed from their own daily practices.

"It's going to chill all lobbying," said Abraham Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League. "I think it will chill journalists' ability to get information. Many of us have conversations with government officials. Can I talk to you about a meeting I had with a government official? I'm not sure anymore. Am I supposed to ask if this is classified or not? It could change the whole nature of discourse in Washington."

Across the political divide, Edward Abington, a former U.S. consul general in Jerusalem who now lobbies for the Palestinians, agreed that the lines often were vague in Washington's culture of "overclassification."

Information he now passes on to the Palestinian Authority "is something I likely would have classified when I was a consul general," Abington told JTA. "When you go and talk to people who work for the government, you're exchanging views. You're telling them things you've heard from your clients. They're telling you things. It's all oral -- information makes this town go around."

8/13/2005 03:03:00 PM  
Blogger truthseeker said...

Is JINSA Israel first operative John Bolton the unnamed individual in the AIPAC scandal?:

"A source close to the defense said that one of the U.S. officials involved, who has not been indicted, was recently appointed to a senior Bush administration post. The source, who asked not to be identified, would not name the official"


http://www.virtualjerusalem.com/news/usnews/?disp_feature=xETxtD.var


"Bolton has had a long-standing sympathy for Israel and has taken pains to develop friendships with Israeli officials. One of his close Israeli friends is Ron Prossor, the director-general of the Foreign Ministry, who served previously in Washington. "

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=611141


"Perle today chairs the Defense Policy Board, Feith is an Undersecretary of Defense, and Wurmser is special assistant to the Undersecretary of State for Arms Control, John Bolton, who dutifully echoes the Perle-Sharon line. According to the Israeli daily newspaper Ha'aretz, in late February,

U.S. Undersecretary of State John Bolton said in meetings with Israeli officials … that he has no doubt America will attack Iraq and that it will be necessary to deal with threats from Syria, Iran and North Korea afterwards.

On Jan. 26, 1998, President Clinton received a letter imploring him to use his State of the Union address to make removal of Saddam Hussein's regime the “aim of American foreign policy” and to use military action because “diplomacy is failing.” Were Clinton to do that, the signers pledged, they would “offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.” Signing the pledge were Elliott Abrams, Bill Bennett, John Bolton, Robert Kagan, William Kristol, Richard Perle, and Paul Wolfowitz. Four years before 9/11, the neocons had Baghdad on their minds."

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8/14/2005 12:54:00 AM  

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