Wednesday, April 06, 2005

"Operating Off a Different Agenda"

I haven't finished listening to the audio of the House Armed Services Committee hearing this morning yet, but it's damn good. Wes Clark, and a couple of the congressmen, really confronted the subject head on, and broke some taboos. Frankly, I was surprised how far they went. Some of the highlights:
[1:36:45]...it included a sweeping list of countries... I was shown a memo once in the Pentagon right after 9/11 that predicted that this was the way we were going to go, knock off Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, it's a great recipe and it would be wonderful if they were all exactly like democratic states that were friendly with the United States. But how you get there is very important, and at what price. Now the issue is how do we succeed in Iraq. My point is this: if you want to succeed in Iraq, you isolate the problem, you don't make it larger. You make it smaller.
[1:37:53] If we believe what the President said, that the most pressing problem of our time is to keep the worst people from getting the worst weapons, then we're not doing that, we're operating off a different agenda. We're working to make the Middle East safe for Israel and for democracy, but we're not focusing on the national security problem the president laid out in 2002.
[1:38:30] The strategy we're pursuing right now [toward Iran and Syria] is a sort of regional dominoes strategy which is making it more difficult for our troops in Iraq.
Another really good exchange starts at around [1:14], and includes Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC) pressing Richard Perle on the Clean Break paper, the Policy Counterterrorism Evaluation Group, and the real agenda behind the war. You can tell Rep. Jones has read up on this, and is aware of a lot of the material I've mentioned on this blog. (Didn't he get the memo that AIPAC doesn't allow you to talk about that?) Anyway, I'm going to take off my Democratic partisan hat for a moment and give kudos to Rep. Jones -- he linked it all together, and you can hear the emotion in his voice as he goes after Perle. He mentions that he's been to four funerals for Marines from bases in North Carolina recently, and you can tell that the fact that he understands that they died in a war sold under false pretenses offends him greatly. He keeps it civil with Perle, but just barely.

I may blog more on this later in the week -- for now I need to listen to the rest of the hearing (over three hours long!) and find an official transcript. Great stuff.

By the way, if you would like for your friends and relatives to listen to the hearing, or point it out to your congressmen or senators, you can click the email button at the bottom of this post, which will allow them to find the key exchanges easily (since the hearing starts with dead airtime and boring banter, as usual on Capitol Hill).

Update: One interesting thing I've noticed today is that I'm starting to get few hits from House.gov and the Library of Congress. I'm glad this is being read by Hill staff and/or Members. This blog is a good way for you to keep up with an alternative view to what AIPAC et al are feeding you, even if you don't want to go on record as opposing them yet. If you read this blog, AIPAC has no way of knowing, unlike if you, say, attended a briefing by an opposing group. Isn't freedom great?

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Blogger truthseeker said...

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5/14/2005 01:59:00 AM  
Blogger truthseeker said...

Via the audio link associated with this "Operating Off a Different Agenda" blog entry, one can hear JINSA/PNAC Zionist extremist Richard Perle (pictured at the top of http://www.nowarforisrael.com )lie to Congressman Walter Jones (R-North Carolina) when he asked Perle if he was involved with the 'A Clean Break'/war for Israel agenda (Congressman Jones had used James Bamford's 'A Pretext for War' book as a guide for the 'A Clean Break'/war for Israel agenda of the Likudnik JINSA/CSP/PNAC Neocons which discussed by Bamford on pages 261-269 and on page 321 as pages 261-269 can be read via scrolling down after accessing the following link:


'A Clean Break'/war for Israel agenda as conveyed by James Bamford in 'A Pretext for War'

5/14/2005 02:06:00 AM  
Blogger truthseeker said...


Republican Walter Jones against 'A Clean Break' war agenda

5/23/2005 02:57:00 PM  
Blogger truthseeker said...

Inventing a Pretext for War-an Interview with James Bamford

Rice Addresses AIPAC on Iran

5/23/2005 06:16:00 PM  
Blogger truthseeker said...

French fries protester regrets war jibe

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1491463,00.html

French fries protester regrets war jibe

Jamie Wilson in Washington
Wednesday May 25, 2005
The Guardian

It was a culinary rebuke that echoed around the world, heightening the sense of tension between Washington and Paris in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. But now the US politician who led the campaign to change the name of french fries to "freedom fries" has turned against the war.
Walter Jones, the Republican congressman for North Carolina who was also the brains behind french toast becoming freedom toast in Capitol Hill restaurants, told a local newspaper the US went to war "with no justification".

Mr Jones, who in March 2003 circulated a letter demanding that the three cafeterias in the House of Representatives' office buildings ban the word french from menus, said it was meant as a "light-hearted gesture".
But the name change, still in force, made headlines around the world, both for what it said about US-French relations and its pettiness.

Now Mr Jones appears to agree. Asked by a reporter for the North Carolina News and Observer about the name-change campaign - an idea Mr Jones said at the time came to him by a combination of God's hand and a constituent's request - he replied: "I wish it had never happened."

Although he voted for the war, he has since become one of its most vociferous opponents on Capitol Hill, where the hallway outside his office is lined with photographs of the "faces of the fallen".

"If we were given misinformation intentionally by people in this administration, to commit the authority to send boys, and in some instances girls, to go into Iraq, that is wrong," he told the newspaper. "Congress must be told the truth."

5/26/2005 03:04:00 AM  
Blogger truthseeker said...

You can hear JINSA/PNAC Zionist operative Richard Perle basically lying to Congressman Walter Jones about the 'A Clean Break/war for Israel agenda about one hour and fourteen (1:14) minutes into the Armed Services Committee hearing using the audio link associated with this 'Operating Off a Different Agenda' blog entry

5/26/2005 01:00:00 PM  
Blogger truthseeker said...

Jewish JINSA/PNAC Neocon (Richard Perle) Calls for the invasion of Iran for Israel as well

5/26/2005 01:02:00 PM  
Blogger truthseeker said...

Congressman Walter Jones turns against Iraq war

6/14/2005 04:21:00 PM  
Blogger truthseeker said...

Seeing the Light (Updated)

6/14/2005 04:24:00 PM  
Blogger truthseeker said...

Republican Congressman Walter 'Freedom Fries' Jones turns against Iraq quagmire

8/28/2005 03:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Russian Jew Oligarch tried to hijack political control of Russia as well in order to align with PNAC Neocon agenda of Richard Perle and company

9/01/2005 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I spoke with Mearsheimer of the study as he mentioned that he had closely read Bamford's 'A Pretext for War'. I mentioned that the paperback version of 'A Pretext for War' had an additional chapter about the AIPAC/Larry Franklin situation which Mearsheimer didn't know.. He responded by mentioning that he was going to go out and buy the paperback version. Bamford told me in D.C. last year (when we had dinner) that Congressman Walter 'Freedom Fries' Jones had told Bamford that his 'A Pretext for War' book had played an instrumental role in turning him against the Iraq quagmire.. A staffer at Jones' office mentioned that Jones had used 'A Pretext for War' as a guide for the questioning of Perle when he apparently lied to Jones about his association with the 'A Clean Break' agenda (one can hear the audio link for such by accessing the following URL):

http://gorillaintheroom.blogspot.com/2005/04/operating-off-different-agenda.html

Government in Secret Talks about Strike on Iran:

http://www.warwithoutend.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=50500

4/02/2006 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.slate.com/id/2124788/sidebar/2124791/

http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2005/08/cindy-sheehan-mother-of-spc-casey.html

http://representativepress.blogspot.com/2005/08/gorilla-in-room-is-us-support-for.html

6/06/2006 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JINSA/PNAC associate Richard Perle calls for invasion of Iran (for Israel, of course!):

http://gorillaintheroom.blogspot.com/2005/05/perle-calls-for-invasion-of-iran.html

6/30/2006 01:05:00 AM  
Blogger truthseeker said...

Congressman Howard Berman on Israel and the pro-Israel lobby

NEOCON ZIONIST THREAT TO AMERICA


Finkelstein gives Israeli-American relations lecture

2/22/2008 03:42:00 AM  

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