Thursday, June 09, 2005

Israel, an American Value?

Nice summary of the myths and realities of the US' relationship with Israel here.


Anonymous Arminius said...

The issue is not so much whether Israel is an American value as whether America (or at least the present Admin.) and Israel share the same values - or lack thereof. The US and the Israeli are the only two governments today waging wars of aggression in the Middle East, bombing civilians indiscriminately, expropriating other peoples' lands and resources. They are both acting like "rogue nations" and constitute an "axis of evil". Perhaps they are both ruled, ultimately, by the same people.

6/09/2005 03:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, this even has the "Golan Cipal" was a Mossad agent canard. At the very least gorilla could sometimes be discriminating with his sources. Brian is just pathetic.

6/09/2005 03:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And everyone KNOWS Golan Cipal was just a nice jewish boy! Please be more "discriminating." If it doesn't sound like MainStreamMedia I get frightened!

6/09/2005 04:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, the former Israeli naval lieutenant and intelligence officer came over here to help out with America's homeland security because he loves America. (He loves them BOTH--Israel AND America! He's a lovin' kind of guy.) When he got caught trying to blackmail the governor of New Jersey, he went back to Israel, but it was just to "recharge his batteries." Thank God he hasn't stopped loving America!

(And please don't bring up Charles Kushner, because that would be anti-semitic!)

6/09/2005 04:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting comment on Golan Cipal:

Was/Is Golan Cipal (Gov. McGreevey's boy-toy) a Mossad agent?

AUGUST 22, 2004. The NY Daily News is running a story today about Golan Cipel, the NJ governor’s former aide on homeland security issues/PR.
Of particular interest---a comment from Avi Niv, an old classmate of Cipel in Israel:

"Cipel served in the navy as an officer and then moved to a secret position in intelligence, Niv said. Afterward, he worked for Avi Yehezkel, a Labor member of the Knesset, then moved to New York in 1994 and was studying while working as a spokesman for the Israeli Consulate."


If this classmate is correct, we have further reason to think that Cipel was a plant, and was used for various purposes within the NJ governor's office.

So far, I can find no US media outlet or wire service with reach into Israel that has followed up on this statement from Niv.

The juxtaposition of "secret position in intelligence" and "worked as a spokesman for the Israeli consulate" is more than suspect, since nations routinely staff their foreign embassies with people who hold neutral titles, but actually work in intelligence.


6/10/2005 06:19:00 AM  
Anonymous David said...

It's also worth asking what the heck is Israel doing funding junkets for STATE GOVERNORS? (McGreevy was in Israel on some kind of lobby-sponsored trip when first introduced to Cipel.) If I'm not mistaken, George W.'s only trip out of the country prior to becoming president was when AIPAC took the then-governor to Israel.

Isn't the congress, the executive branch, and the media enough?

6/10/2005 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh oh.

Walter Jones … a North Carolina conservative, said on ABC’s “This Week” that he would offer legislation next week setting a timetable for the U.S. withdrawal from Iraq.

Jones, a member of the House of Representatives Armed Services Committee, said “primarily the neoconservatives” in the administration were to blame for flawed war planning.

6/13/2005 08:33:00 AM  
Blogger Brian said...

An Israeli citizen doesn't have to be a plant or on the payroll of Mossad to be a resource for the government.

Anytime a government official engages in a comprimising relationship with a foriegn national the security of the country is harmed.

6/14/2005 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

witness the sayanim

6/16/2005 04:20:00 PM  

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